Links to items discussed in this month’s Q&A call:
Valley Food Storage (read Jack’s review here)
Legacy Food Storage (read Jack’s review here)
Mountain House Food (read Jack’s review here)
The Black Swan by Nassim Nicholas Taleb (read Jack’s review here)
Video Transcript:
Jack:
Do you have any questions for me or the team or any comments, anything you want to share? When did you become a member?
Kendall:
Kendall speaking, from South Carolina.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
I became a member about three weeks ago.
Jack:
Okay.
Kendall:
I’ve received your emails for a while, thank you.
Jack:
You bet.
Kendall:
But I thought your content was pretty good and look forward to working through the various challenges. Although I am having a little bit of difficulty getting in because when I sign in, it presents me another, and it’s been a couple of weeks since I’ve tried, but another gate, if you will, that I had to get through. And I’ll drop you an email… I sent you an email about it. So if you could look maybe a week or so ago, look in your emails, you’ll have one from [KWalker9 00:00:58] that described the issue with a little bit more particularity.
Jack:
Okay.
Brent:
I’ll look into that. I must’ve missed that email with craziness of this time of year. Not that we did anything or went anywhere, but still-
Kendall:
But things around the holidays get hectic? In Colorado?
Brent:
Kids at home going nuts, but I’ll definitely take a look into that for you. This is Brent.
Kendall:
Okay, I appreciate that.
Brent:
Someone else was having the same issue and I fixed it pretty easily. It was just like a technical glitch on the back end, but I don’t know what happened or why it happened, but thanks for bringing that to our attention.
Kendall:
Well, my issue for, or my usual approach to technical matters is to use a bigger hammer.
Brent:
Yeah. Ignore it for a day and see if it goes away.
Kendall:
Well, my wife always says turn off the computer and start it again.
Jack:
Yeah, yeah.
Kendall:
Fixes the problems.
Jack:
That’s a popular one on my end sometimes.
Kendall:
Well, she was in tech support.
Jack:
Yeah. Yep. Of course on a real project, if I use a bigger hammer I usually cost myself a lot of money and time.
Kendall:
Oh.
Jack:
Not always, but it just depends I guess.
Kendall:
Noticed that I was shut off on video so I’ve put the video on so you can see what kind of character you’re dealing with on the other end of the line.
Jack:
Sure. Yeah, that’s always an option if people want to show the video or not. I like it, but anyway, have you been on the site? Are you just having periodic problems or you’ve never even been able to log in?
Kendall:
Well I’ve been on the site, but the process of signing in is where I ran into the problem.
Jack:
Okay. Have you been… When I say you’ve been on the site, once you log in to The Resilient Life and then you go into the badges and challenges and the requirements, have you been through some of that or that’s what you’re trying to access?
Kendall:
No, I’m still at the threshold.
Jack:
Okay. Okay, well we need to make sure we get that solved as soon as possible, because that’s the meat of this thing.
Kendall:
Right.
Jack:
That’s where it helps you prioritize and then take on the next steps and then obviously be able to mark complete on things that you have either already completed or can complete quickly or whatever, and then hopefully track your score, right?
Kendall:
Right.
Jack:
See your… We call it the readiness score, but see that number go up.
Kendall:
Right now, I’m a-
Brent:
[crosstalk 00:03:54] I’m not seeing anything that would [crosstalk 00:03:57] prevent a log in. I don’t know if you don’t mind, if you want to just maybe try logging in now while we’re all here, it might be the easiest to troubleshoot.
Jack:
Yeah, that’d be good.
Kendall:
Can you still hear me?
Jack:
Yes.
Brent:
We can still hear you.
Kendall:
Okay, well let me go back.
Brent:
I dropped a link in the chat in Zoom to the login if you want to take a shortcut.
Kendall:
Okay, I logged in. (silence).
Kendall:
I can’t remember. Okay. Okay, now what I’m getting is a W in a circle on a blue background that says username or email address, which is fine, password, which is fine, but then it says Google Authenticator code.
Brent:
Oh, so it’s pushing you to the backend.
Jack:
Yeah.
Brent:
Okay. Here, let me, I don’t know. That’s super strange. Are you confident you’ve got the right password that you’re entering?
Kendall:
Well, like I said, it’s been a couple of weeks, so…
Brent:
Let’s just try this. This is what kind of worked for somebody else. I just sent you another link in Zoom, or if you go back to the original login page and click the forgot your password link. If you go there, let’s force a password reset, and then see if that works.
Kendall:
Okay. Well, I hit forgot password, send password… Asks me for my email.
Brent:
So if you’re seeing the blue circle with the W, you’re on the wrong page there.
Kendall:
Okay, because I went to resilientlife.co.
Brent:
Yeah. Just go back, let’s start back there. Go back to resilientlife.co. And then when you see the…
Kendall:
Okay, I’m backing out. So I am at the resilient, R-E-S-I-L-I-E-N-T life, run that all together,.co.
Brent:
Yep.
Kendall:
Right?
Brent:
Yep.
Kendall:
So I go to log in.
Brent:
Yep. And then underneath…
Kendall:
And it says username, which is my email address.
Brent:
Yeah. So if you go down a little bit, it says username, password, login, and then there’s a link that says forgot your password.
Kendall:
Right.
Brent:
You click on that.
Kendall:
I just clicked it, but I’ll do that again. Okay. Okay, and send password. The password has been emailed to you. Okay.
Kendall:
Do you guys smell funny out in Colorado?
Jack:
What’s that?
Kendall:
It says your password is… Looks like it’s a version of equip.
Jack:
Oh.
Kendall:
Maybe it’s equip as spelled by a Wookiee.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
Okay, well let me go back to log in and try this again.
Brent:
It’s computer-generated.
Kendall:
Yeah.
Brent:
Yeah.
Kendall:
I sort of figured that.
Jack:
But it might’ve been… Did we write that Brent? I mean…
Brent:
No, it’s all computer-generated.
Jack:
Is it? Wow. Okay.
Jack:
We have made typos from time to time. It happens.
Kendall:
I have to count how many-
Jack:
They sneak past me. I wasn’t an English major so those things sneak past me pretty easily.
Kendall:
It’s got about four iterations of the same letter sequentially so I had to… Okay, now it gives me to the fuller page.
Brent:
So once you log in, you should have some more options on your navigation menu, things like-
Kendall:
Right.
Brent:
Or handbook badges, challenges…
Kendall:
Correct. Yes, sir.
Brent:
Okay so you’re in. That’s awesome.
Jack:
Yeah.
Brent:
I don’t know what the hang up there was and I apologize for the tech issues.
Kendall:
No problem.
Brent:
Most people wouldn’t believe us if we told them everything that goes in on the back end to try to build a site like this, so we try to make it as seamless and as painful… Painful, as painless as possible.
Kendall:
Somebody’s got an IT background because the truth is coming out.
Jack:
If you can make it through all these hurdles, then we’ll give you a perfect score.
Kendall:
Say what?
Jack:
I said if you can make it through all the hurdles, just to log in, we’ll give you some extra points. No, I’m kidding.
Brent:
It happened and thanks for your patience with that and I apologize for the troubles, but glad you’re in there.
Kendall:
Well, so is this a general dial-in for anybody and everybody who happened just happens to dial on?
Jack:
Yeah. So, once a month I just want to make myself accessible to anybody who has any questions related to anything really, anything, or if they just want to share.
Kendall:
Okay.
Jack:
It’s just having me as kind of the face of our little company here that is creating this resilient culture, trying to get people to be excited about that. And any member wants to have a question and wants to share can jump on this call. This membership is relatively new and we’re growing pretty quickly. We’ve added how many members in the last 30 days, Brent, roughly?
Brent:
About 70 or so.
Jack:
Okay.
Kendall:
Okay.
Jack:
Yeah, it’s still very, very new so not everybody can jump on a call, but our hope is in the next two, three, six months, we’ll be on a call like this any given month and have 10, 12 people on and people have questions and we’ll just sit here and answer them. Like I’ve said, I don’t know if in some of the kind of videos I’ve done, I’ve said I know quite a bit about a lot of stuff, but I’m not the know-all, end-all, be-all guy for everything. So there may be members who know more about X, Y, and Z than I do and they’re welcome to answer a question if they happen to be on the call and “Hey I know a little something about that”. So it’s just a community… I just want people who want to get the most out of The Resilient Life, to be able to hop on a call and talk and share their stories, share their questions, and I hope that these will get better as more members have time to participate.
Kendall:
Well, from my perspective, this is really pretty much a unique activity that you guys perform.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
Because that puts you in direct contact with the people who are really behind the website.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
Who are planning the activities, or doing the planning, programming, however you want to put it, which I think is valuable. So thank you for doing this. I appreciate you doing that. And…
Jack:
Thanks.
Kendall:
I plan to try to keep signing in. Is there any way to sort of network among people? I don’t know how many South Carolinians you have in the program at this point where they might… South Carolina is not nearly as big as Colorado, but…
Jack:
I think we’re pretty, like I said, we’re small but growing quickly. So, over time there will be more people from more locations. Right now, it’s pretty much through the Facebook group. I don’t know if you’d had… Some people are not a fan of Facebook, but it is the biggest-
Kendall:
I’m a little bit Facebook-averse.
Jack:
Yeah, right.
Kendall:
One, because I’m not the most techie person.
Jack:
Sure.
Kendall:
And my wife is always on Facebook, but… How shall I say it without sounding paranoid, I’m wanting to keep my profile a little bit lower.
Jack:
Hey, I totally get that. I’m not making any promises on this call, but as we grow, there may be some… I’ve seen on other sites that want that kind of feature, some kind of thing where in the membership, you could say where you’re from or put a pin in the city you’re from or what have you.
Kendall:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack:
So it’s still relatively private and then you could reach out to other members somehow. We don’t have that functionality currently because it adds a layer of complexity to our site, but as we get rolling and as that feature becomes something people want, we could definitely take a look at adding that down the road. So, yeah. So thank you for sharing that that’s something that you would desire is to be able to say hey, here’s a like-minded person. I know because they’re a part of the same community. Maybe we could either meet up or maybe we could just communicate and…
Kendall:
Well it does provide a place, or at least a starting point, for networking…
Jack:
Exactly.
Kendall:
Which I think is going to be more and more important as we get into weirder times.
Jack:
I’m finding that too, we all choose to live in different places and you don’t always run into people who are as like-minded on this kind of stuff. They may be good people in your neighborhood and whatnot, but they might not be as worried about these things.
Kendall:
Mm-hmm (affirmative).
Jack:
We call it two different kinds of people, just for people to understand, is like the fragile masses, people who aren’t really into this stuff. They’re just kind of like, if things go bad, I’ll just get in line for the handouts or what have you. Right. And then there’s people who are like, no, I want to take responsibility for my own life, no matter what the future holds.
Kendall:
Right.
Jack:
So if you have, like you said, you have people part of this, The Resilient Life, man, that couldn’t be a better person to reach out to if they live within the same city or even…
Kendall:
Right. Right.
Jack:
Close by it. I think that could be a very popular feature, quickly. So I don’t know what your thoughts are on that.
Kendall:
But as you grow, I think that would be a good thing.
Jack:
Okay. We’ll put that in the project list that we have and see where it shakes out. But, thanks for that comment. And like I said, if you decide to [crosstalk 00:15:00] jump on the Facebook group at some point, not saying you have to, but if you do, there are quite a few benefits there, but I understand the privacy-
Kendall:
Okay.
Jack:
I understand the privacy concerns, totally.
Kendall:
If I can scare up my Facebook password, I’ll give it a shot. I haven’t been on Facebook, gosh. Funny, the last pictures I posted on Facebook were of a girls soccer team that I coached when my daughter was like 11 years old and she is 24, 25.
Jack:
Right.
Kendall:
So I’m not the most diligent about that.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
Well, one idea is maybe you can on these… You’ve got the experience in having these calls, I don’t, but if for one subject matter, maybe you could cover one of the topics that you zip out in your emails, circle back over one of those for some high points.
Jack:
Yeah. Okay. Yeah, we could. Some past calls, I’ve kind of just shared my thoughts on certain things, but it felt like preaching to me, like I was just talking into a microphone and there wasn’t very many people on the call. The best calls we’ve had is when people show up and they’re like, I have this specific question or these are my concerns and we just riff off that. And it’s just like…
Kendall:
Yeah.
Jack:
Here’s my thoughts on it. Does anybody else have any thoughts on it? If I was in your position, this is probably the approach I would take to this. So somebody had a question about water storage yet they had access to a large stream of water nearby and they’re like, well, would I make that my priority? A lot of times, water is the number one priority within the preparedness space. I was like, well, if you have a means to filter that water in case it ever got contaminated, whether it was fallout or who knows, right. As long as you have a means to, and then have some backup supplies, I would move on to food pretty quickly. So, but those were some really good calls we had a few months back, but recently we haven’t had, as you know the attendance has been one person, two person. Last month I think two people showed up, but nobody wanted to ask a question.
Kendall:
Right. Right. Well, again, I think it’s a good forum.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
I just tossed that out is at least there’s something to talk about that might spark some questions if you’re not getting questions.
Jack:
Yeah. The other thing we did this month that we’re going to do better at is ask if people feel like they won’t be able to attend yet they’re a part of the Facebook group… Maybe we could do that as part of the website too, or email people out and just say, hey, we’re having a call. If you can’t attend, you can ask a question and we’ll answer the question on the call, even if you can’t attend. You know what I mean? Like we could just say, here’s the question from so-and-so, here’s my thoughts on it. And that could be, and then people could watch my response via this call if there was no other question. So yeah, we’re looking at how to better solicit more engagement into the call like this. But I do totally appreciate your thoughts on that.
Kendall:
Well, I’m going to sign off at this point. I appreciate your walking me through helping me over that bump on my sign in.
Jack:
Okay.
Kendall:
And I’ll try to generate a couple more questions for you between now and the next call in.
Jack:
Okay. Sounds great. I appreciate you jumping on. Like any membership, there’s going to be a certain subsection of people who engage at a high level and then some others that are less so, but we’re finding more people who are more engaged so we’ll keep rolling, keep adding new members and hopefully this will become something that’s super valuable for all of us. So thank you very much for attending.
Kendall:
All right. Well, I appreciate the opportunity to, to make your acquaintance.
Jack:
All right. Take care.
Kendall:
Look forward to interacting with you more.
Jack:
All right.
Brent:
We did get one question emailed in if you want to stick around for that. If you don’t, no problem.
Kendall:
Sure. Sure. Shoot.
Brent:
Joe wrote in, just said, I can’t make the Q&A call today, wanted to ask you what your suggestion would be for long-term emergency food. I’ve seen a few brands and I’ve done some research, but I haven’t found a clear leader as far as shelf life, nutrition, variety, and taste. Also, is there a brand that has a convenient size for two people, around 2,500 calories per day, 14 days, approximately 70,000 calories total. So it sounds like he’s looking for a long-term food supplier provider that we recommend and looking for pouch sizes that are going to feed two people.
Jack:
The survival food industry is large and it’s ever-evolving so it’s hard to… For instance, you’ll find a great deal and then that deal will be gone. So the two or three survival vendors that I am most familiar with is, number one is Valley Food Storage. I’ve bought food from them several times to increase my food storage supply. They seem to have a good value. I’ve tested their products. The taste was good. Some people look into what kind of ingredients are used to make freeze-dried food and there’s some really… It can get tricky because to make them last 25, 30 years and be able to reconstitute using hot water, it’s not just going to be fresh, natural ingredient ingredients. There’s going to be some things that help constitute that food. However, if you have specific needs, there’s gluten-free options and most vendors have those gluten-free options. And then the other one is Legacy Food Storage. They’re another one that I have personally bought for my family and I’ve tested. So far those two have been really satisfactory to me.
Jack:
Mountain House, I’ve bought them for more backpacking. They have a pouch where you can actually… The pouch is designed so you can pour the hot water into the pouch and then mix it and then seal it and then let it sit and cook, open it back up. And the reason that’s good for like a bug-out bag or that’s good for hiking and backpacking is because you don’t have to bring another container in which to mix and eat out of. So it saves you some ounces on that. That’s what I use Mountain House… Because Mountain House is a little more expensive on a per pouch basis is what I found typically. But their food is really pretty tasty.
Jack:
So those are the three vendors I’m most familiar with, but there’s a lot more out there. So my suggestion is to start with those, look at their websites, look for any bundles or deals, because obviously you want to try… This is survival food. Okay, so you want to be able to put stuff in your basement or in your pantry or whatever at the best cost and get the most food for your dollar, and then hope you never eat it. It’s an insurance policy, right? Like if you’re eating that food, it means that you’re in a crisis of some sort. Whether it’s a personal crisis where you need to consume this food because you and your spouse lost your jobs and you don’t have any money for groceries, or it’s a widespread national emergency of some sort. But either way, when you crack into this stockpile, you’re just happy to have calories. So obviously you want to get the best deal. You want it to be tasty. So all those things for those vendors I shared with you are right in line with that. So I recommend shopping around, look for a good deal and then pull the trigger and get it supplied as soon as possible. Brent, do you think I covered what he was asking or did I miss any aspects of it?
Brent:
Yeah, in terms of vendors, those are the three we always recommend, Valley Food Storage, Legacy Food, and then Mountain House has that added benefit of not needing a pot and you don’t have to clean anything up, right, so you save your water.
Jack:
Yeah. That’s why it’s kind of like the backpackers choice for survival food.
Brent:
The other thing he was just asking was, does anyone have the… Comes in the convenient size for two people so like 2,500 calories. So, I don’t know.
Jack:
There’s so many selection choices online, I can’t bring one to mind immediately.
Brent:
Yeah. I’m pretty sure… I was just kind of looking through those three reviews that you did on those companies and we’ll link to those in the newsletter and below this video on the recording on the site, but I seem to think that for your family of four, you did two bags and that worked out, so…
Jack:
Well, we made more than we needed, to be honest. That had leftovers. So it, I don’t know…
Brent:
But yeah, they’ve got the… They all have different… There’s the premium version that has more calories than the regular version.
Jack:
Right.
Brent:
So there should be a good size to work for two people.
Jack:
And if one pouch has more than you need, obviously you want to eat it before you open a new package in a survival scenario. You’re not going to probably have refrigeration options. You know what I mean? So it’s going to be something like you consume it and then you consume it again and then you don’t make your next one until you’re feeling like you need to, hunger wise. And in a survival scenario, you might be trying to limit how much you eat to some degree, because you want to extend this supply as long as possible, A. And B, and some people don’t think about this, is if you’re cracking into your supplies and it’s really, really kind of dog eat dog kind of world, like worst case scenario where people are really starving on the streets… God forbid, if we ever end up in that kind of scenario, you don’t necessarily want to not lose weight. You don’t want to stick out if you don’t want people to know that you have food, right? You don’t want your neighbors to be truly starving and losing weight and here you are not losing weight in some degree.
Jack:
So while we store food to provide that worst case scenario where you have to consume calories, you also don’t necessarily want to eat them at a very high rate. So just something to think about. Some people don’t think about that because most of us have never lived through that kind of a scenario and the psychology behind it, and neighbors.. And I haven’t either, but I’ve spent a lot of time thinking about this topic and chatting with other survival and preparedness people. And it’s one aspect that we’ve talked about before that I think a lot of people don’t realize is that you may have to eat a little less calories than you normally would during normal times just to make your supply last as long as possible and not stick out of the crowd too much. If that desire [crosstalk 00:27:32].
Jack:
Kendall, did you have…
Brent:
I think he got a call.
Jack:
Oh, okay. So anyway, that’s my thoughts on that. Just kind of something to think about.
Brent:
Yeah. The only thing I’ll add to that is one thing that you taught me a long time ago that I didn’t think about when I was building our food stockpile here, is that it’s good to diversify both vendors and lots within the vendor. So instead of going and buying a year’s worth of food for four people at the exact same time from the exact same company where all that stuff’s coming off the same production line at the same time, it’s better to have a little bit from Valley Food, a little bit from Legacy, a little bit from Mountain Food…
Jack:
Yes.
Brent:
And maybe even bought at different times, just in case something goes wrong with one of those orders or one of those production periods.
Jack:
Yeah.
Brent:
Maybe the sealer didn’t work, or maybe there’s some bad chicken in there or something. And then your entire stockpile is-
Jack:
Recalled.
Brent:
Right? So…
Jack:
Yeah and so I actually worked for about a decade in the food industry, myself, in engineering for a factory that made food. And so the reality is they make huge batches of this stuff and then they store it in their warehouse and they ship it out like you were just suggesting and like I’ve told you before. And there was scenarios, unfortunately, where we had to go back and recall and pull that stuff off the shelf, but a lot of it had already been purchased sometimes. And so it’s like, get the notice out to people that, don’t consume this or what have you. And that wasn’t my department. That was the quality control guys within the factory. I was in a different branch, but I was at the factories and I saw this happen occasionally.
Jack:
The better companies, it happens not very often, so buying from a reputable vendor is the best. You avoid that more than a fly-by-night kind of company or a new company that might not have its ducks in a row when it comes to quality control and testing and quality ingredients. But even the best companies, it happens every once in a while, and it’d be a shame to have your entire stockpile be recalled or compromise your family’s safety because you just went all in on one vendor one time. So, great. I’m glad you brought that up, Brent.
Brent:
I’m glad you taught it to me.
Jack:
I forget, you know.
Brent:
That was probably years ago now. It was probably five years ago, so…
Jack:
Yeah.
Brent:
Yeah, well that’s good. Well, we’ll give Kendall a minute here, see if he wants to wrap it up or not, but…
Kendall:
[inaudible 00:30:32] called with an emergency need for insurance information.
Brent:
Oh, no problem.
Kendall:
So you guys have been preempted.
Brent:
That’s fine. We can wrap things up here and let you deal with what you need to take care of and hopefully we’ll see you on the call next month.
Kendall:
Give me one second.
Brent:
Okay, sure. (silence).
Kendall:
Okay, while you were talking about… Let’s see, you mentioned Mountain House, which I’m a little bit familiar with, Legacy Food, and what was the third? Valley…
Jack:
Valley Food Storage.
Kendall:
Valley Food Storage. We had been looking at various ones and we had sampled a few. And of course, when you’ve got the option of having a regular cooked dinner versus boiling water and pouring it into a bag…
Jack:
Right.
Kendall:
My wife and I are probably as weak as anyone in making our choice about that decision, but we have sampled a couple. Anything is better than nothing.
Jack:
Right.
Kendall:
And we figured we just get a basic supply so we’ve probably got like a five month supply.
Jack:
Okay.
Kendall:
And we wanted at least to have something to start with.
Jack:
Absolutely.
Kendall:
And so that we’re not entirely caught short. So…
Jack:
And it’s interesting [crosstalk 00:32:50] because a lot of people ask me, how much should I stockpile? When should I call it good? And that’s really difficult to answer for any given family, right? Everybody has different fears, different goals, different… What brings you peace of mind might not bring somebody else peace of mind. Somebody who is absolutely new to this and 100% fragile in a scenario… Two weeks. I always preach two weeks because it’s doable and affordable within reason, right? Just start there, just get something ASAP, shop around, find a good deal, buy it and be done, and then come do some other things and then circle back around later and be like, okay, I actually want to add more to that and get to whatever, six months, eight months, a year. Some people plan for five years. It’s pretty insane.
Kendall:
[crosstalk 00:33:43] what you think is the most, how you prioritize or predict what the most likely scenarios are.
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
But one of the things that one article I read about three or four weeks ago kind of has stuck in my mind just because it was so much of a poke in the eye to me, that if anything is worth doing, it’s worth doing poorly, which, wait a second. I mean, and that really rubs my fur the wrong way because I’m a little bit of a… I won’t say a perfectionist, but I try to be very careful and very accurate.
Jack:
Sure.
Kendall:
My work calls for accuracy.
Jack:
Right.
Kendall:
And so the whole gist of it is that if something is worth doing, it’s worth getting something done now, rather than falling into analysis paralysis.
Jack:
Yeah, absolutely.
Kendall:
As Patton said, a good plan now is better than a perfect plan, or a good plan vigorously pursued now is better than the perfect plan ten minutes from now.
Jack:
Right. Yeah. No, I agree with that. If you’re just doing work that’s sloppy, then no. Right? But if you’re putting in some effort, you’re putting in some time, but you’re delaying taking action because you’re looking for some kind of perfect final answer that’s not… You’re just going to keep delaying. And if you keep delaying that action, then…
Kendall:
And the gist of the phrase, if anything is worth doing, it’s worth doing poorly, the gist of it is not to put a premium on poor performance or poor results, but getting something done now.
Jack:
Taking meaningful action within a reasonable amount of time. Right?
Kendall:
Right.
Jack:
And that’s why a lot of people delay it because they call themselves perfectionists or what have you, and then they don’t take any action and then they’re never held accountable to taking any action. So, us humans, we’re an odd bunch sometimes.
Jack:
One more point you mentioned that I actually love making, so I’ll make it quick and then we’ll maybe wrap up. A lot of people kind of asked me, what do you think, should I prepare for a pandemic? Should I prepare for a nuclear war? Should I prepare for any given scenario? There’s tons of different scenarios and how long will they last? And that’s kind of the reason I created The Resilient Life in the first place, is let’s not try to predict the future. Nobody can do that. We all try. We’re always wrong. Where the stock market is going, nobody knows. Where everything that happens is a black swan event, something major that upsets the world or upsets your community, or what have you, is never predictable. They are rare events by the mathematics but through history, we know they occur. And so instead of focusing on that, I like people to try and focus more on just becoming more resilient to any of those, right? So that’s [crosstalk 00:37:01] The Resilient Life.
Kendall:
Right, and I think the title is… It really captures the essence of what you’re saying, that even though it’s impossible to accurately predict everything that might happen, and even to predict with large brush strokes what’s going to happen…
Jack:
Yeah.
Kendall:
What’s more important than the ability to predict accurately is the ability to respond resiliently.
Jack:
Yeah, so we can’t predict accurately, but we can measure our resiliency. Right? That’s something we can actually measure. How much food do you have? How much water do you have? How many skills do you have? On and on, all the badges that we’ve created and whatnot, and the scoring system. Once you get into that, you’ll see. But there’s a way to measure how resilient am I to upset conditions? And then here’s a number roughly. Yeah, it’s not perfect. It’s not perfect. There’s crazy events that may be, but we try to broad stroke prepare for all these things. And then if you’re more resilient than somebody else, then that’s what this is all about, becoming part of the resilient few, being somebody who can handle the unknown future that we all get to find out as it comes.
Kendall:
Yeah.
Jack:
So, anyway…
Kendall:
All right, well, I’m going to sign off now.
Jack:
Yeah. Well, it was awesome talking to you and I appreciate your thoughts on everything. That was very cool.
Kendall:
And, you are Jack?
Jack:
Yes.
Kendall:
Okay, Jack, good to make your acquaintance. Brent, you also.
Brent:
Thank you.
Kendall:
Thank you much.
Jack:
All right. Take care.
Kendall:
All right, we’ll see you guys in a month.
Jack:
All right. Sounds good.
Brent:
See ya.
Kendall:
Bye now.
Jack:
Bye.